Looking for other U.S. Army Escort Wagon owners

[kration]

I'm in the process of restoring a post 1909 U.S. Army Escort Wagon and am looking to contact other owners. I'm also looking for leads on a decent woodwright shop that can replicate any parts that might need to be replaced. Any help or leads would be most welcomed.

Kration
North Carolina

[FtValleyPS]

Hi kration, welcome to the forum. It looks like you have a nice escort wagon, bet it's fun to work on. I am trying to buy one from a friend; if I do, maybe we can trade notes.

I don't know if you know about Hansen Wheel and Wagon in the Dakotas (http://www.hansenwheel.com) or Werner Wagons in Kansas (http://www.wernerwagonworks.com); I think both of those shops sell escort wagons, work on them, fabricate parts, etc.

[selewis]

Nice websites, John. I was taken with the 3 seater sleigh for sale at the Hansen site. Seems really cheap.

Kration, have you tried contacting any of the hackney co.s in your area? Perhaps an outfit that assists at military rites could put you onto someone close by.

Sandy

[browerpatch]

Is the Escort Wagon the same as the Quartermasters Wagon?

[Pat Holscher]

A nice wagon of this type (I think it's this type, I'm not an expert on wagons by any means) is located at the Wyoming State Fair fairgrounds. I suspect they only haul it out for the State Fair, as it's in very nice shape. I'll have to find the photograph I have it and post it. Anyhow, they have one, and given the condition, they must have restored it.

Another one is privately owned by a fellow I know here in town. He doesn't participate in this forum, but I may be able to have him answer questions as needed.

Yet another one is located out in front of a restaurant in on the sought exist on the way out of Sheridan Wyoming. It's sort of a prop there, and I don't think that it's marked with unit insignia or US insignia, but it is painted the blue color they typically were.

[Pat Holscher]

Also, I've bumped up some threads with wagon photos or depictions.

[Pat Holscher]

I've bumped up another thread that includes this photograph, but this one provides an interesting example of how many of these must have existed at one time:

Here's a US Army photograph from WWI of a large wagon train at Camp Hancock, GA.

I think this photo helps explain how filmmakers a few years later were able to get the large number of teamsters needed for Oregon Trail movies.



Pat

[Couvi]

K.,

Have you checked with the Frontier Army Museum at Fort Leavenworth, http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/csi/FrontierArmyMuseum.asp. They have a large vehicle collection. The Fort Sill Museum also have a large vehicle collection: http://www.lasr.net/travel/city.php?For ... 203011a003, the US Army Transportation Museum, at Fort Eustic, VA, http://www.transchool.lee.army.mil/Muse ... museum.htm & http://www.transchool.lee.army.mil/muse ... wagons.htm, and lastly our old and dear friend, Luther, at the Quartermaster Msueum at Fort Lee, VA: http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/ & http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/collec ... icles.html

[Philip S]

I've bumped up another thread that includes this photograph, but this one provides an interesting example of how many of these must have existed at one time:

Here's a US Army photograph from WWI of a large wagon train at Camp Hancock, GA.

I think this photo helps explain how filmmakers a few years later were able to get the large number of teamsters needed for Oregon Trail movies.



Pat

The photo shows the wagon train of the 28th Division (mostly PA National Guard) training at Camp Hancock.

[Pat Holscher]

K.,

Have you checked with the Frontier Army Museum at Fort Leavenworth, http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/csi/FrontierArmyMuseum.asp. They have a large vehicle collection. The Fort Sill Museum also have a large vehicle collection: http://www.lasr.net/travel/city.php?For ... 203011a003, the US Army Transportation Museum, at Fort Eustic, VA, http://www.transchool.lee.army.mil/Muse ... museum.htm & http://www.transchool.lee.army.mil/muse ... wagons.htm, and lastly our old and dear friend, Luther, at the Quartermaster Msueum at Fort Lee, VA: http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/ & http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/collec ... icles.html

I think Ft. Laramie has a restored one as well.

[Pat Holscher]

The photo shows the wagon train of the 28th Division (mostly PA National Guard) training at Camp Hancock.

I can't imagine how many of these must have been surplused out in the 30s and 40s, and then used by ranches and farms, and then probably busted up into kindling.

Probably a fair number are in farm junk piles even now.

[Sam Cox]

Troop i,29th Cavalry Regiment,1944

[Varangian]

There's a restored one parked in Trigger South at the 1st Cav Division headquarters at Fort Hood. You might contact the 1st Cav museum for any info they might have.

http://www.hood.army.mil/1stcavdiv/1cdm ... search.asp

[Sam Cox]

can anyone help with pictures of mountain wagons?

they are still on a Cavalry Regiment TO and E in 44

[Philip S]

can anyone help with pictures of mountain wagons?

they are still on a Cavalry Regiment TO and E in 44

These are two frame captures from an Army Training Film "Crossing an Unfordable Stream" showing a mountain wagon being loaded onto an escort wagon converted into a boat:

[Sam Cox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIvAZvrW1qU

[Sam Cox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIvAZvrW1qU

[Philip S]

Fascinating movie...thanks Sam!
What is the difference between an ambulance and a mountain wagon?

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[Philip S]

M1909 Studebaker ambulance at the PA Military Museum:

[Sam Cox]

Fascinating movie...thanks Sam!
What is the difference between an ambulance and a mountain wagon?

wagons.JPG

yep its pretty cool

if i only i knew how to capture it